SYTYCR Round 1.6: dogbitesman VS. The Honorary Swede (THE QUICK AND THE DEAD)

by Nick Jobe · July 13, 2012 · So You Think You Can Review · 8 Comments

What a controversial battle! And a tight race there at the end! But in the end, in literally the last minutes before midnight, Dr. Richard Thornton came out on top by about 2 votes and will be moving on to Round 2! Congrats! And thank you to everybody who commented and critiqued, anonymously or otherwise. I do ask that you do not actually insult the contestants, however. Otherwise, great stuff. For today’s battle, I actually had to shift things around and jump ahead a set. Neither of the two set for the next battle were ready, so I’m just moving on to the next couple and will return to the others later. So for this next battle, we get a look at our first western of the tournament (but not the last), Sam Raimi’s The Quick and the Dead. Read, vote, comment, enjoy! You have until Sunday. Below is the updated bracket. Click to make it bigger.



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Review #1
By dogbitesman
I first saw Raimi’s western on it’s initial cinema release. It was one of those glorious summer nights in between college terms when two of my fellow geeks and I headed into town to catch the movie before a night of drunken revelry. I was giggling like a girl throughout but anytime I looked across at my friend Dermot, seated to my right, his face was expressionless. “How can he not be enjoying this?” I wondered. When the lights went up and we departed the theatre I questioned his enjoyment. “So you weren’t impressed?” I asked. “Are you kidding me?” he replied, “It was hilarious!”. My other friend Ruairi, who had been sat the other side of Dermot looked at me in bewilderment and asked “Did you not see him laughing his ass off?” You see, I had completely forgotten something about Dermot. At that time he was in the middle of a bout of the obscure medical condition known as “Bell’s Palsy”, a bizarre ailment which renders one half of it’s victim’s face numb. While the left side of dermot’s face maintained a stony expression, his right side was laughing maniacally.
The plot of “The Quick and the Dead” is borrowed from Anthony Mann’s great Jimmy Stewart starring western “Winchester 73”. The small town of Redemption is hosting a tournament for sharpshooters. Just like “So you think you can review” it’s based on a knockout format, though I hope I can get through this competition without any holes being shot in my head. Sharon Stone arrives in town looking for revenge on Gene Hackman, the evil patriarch of the town and the man responsible for the death of her father. He’s basically playing a more tongue in cheek riff on his “Unforgiven” character and seems to be having a great time in the role. Stone enters the competition and defeats various unshaven ruffians before meeting Hackman in the grand finale.
The movie didn’t fare too well at the time, neither critically nor commercially, but, as is want with cult movies, seems to have gained more respect over the years. Part of it’s failure may be the casting of Stone. Coming off the back of performances in movies like “The Specialist” and “Sliver” she was the laughing stock of Hollywood. She may be the weak link here but there are plenty of great performances to make up for her seeming disinterest. Lance Henriksen’s part as a showboating gunfighter steals the show and there’s a pre-Titanic DiCaprio playing a cocky Billy the Kid archetype. Russel Crowe also stars in one of his first American appearances. If you attempted to assemble this cast now you’d be seriously out of pocket. As well as these star names there’s a rogues gallery of great character actors like Pat Hingle, Mark Boone Junior and Tobin Bell.
Now Raimi is just another Hollywood journeyman but back when this came along he was still known as the man behind the “Evil Dead” series. His camera has all the wild energy of those movies here and I remember this being a complaint from viewers who couldn’t get on board with his visual style. At the end of the day this, like most westerns, won’t appeal to the mainstream but fans of Raimi from before his dabbling in comic book adaptations and Kevin Costner baseball movies will eat it up.
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Review #2
By The Honorary Swede



The Quick and the Dead – A solemn woman (Sharon Stone) arrives in an isolated ramshackle Western town with one thing on her mind: revenge for the brutal killing of her father (Gary Sinise, though his appearance is so brief it’s barely worth mentioning).  The man responsible: John Herod (Herod, get it?… played by Gene Hackman), the undisputed kingpin of the town, whose wealth and power makes him a formidable target.  But the woman has a surefire route to her vengeance, in the form of a kill-or-be-killed quickdraw elimination contest.  She’ll have to work her way through the other competitors first, including a cocky outlaw (Lance Henriksen), a hired assassin (Keith David), Herod’s own son (Leonardo DiCaprio) eager to prove himself, and the Reverend Cort (Russell Crowe), captured and bound by Herod’s henchmen.
My history with the Western genre is all relatively recent.  With two or maybe three exceptions, I avoided the genre up until the past 10 years, under the ignorant delusion that they were all the same… a vision of John Wayne as the macho cowboy, shootin’ them rotten Injuns full of holes in picture after picture.  Only when I finally removed my blinders did I see that the genre has as many different flavors as any other, and I developed an appreciation for the subtle differences (even occasionally managing to enjoy Wayne, at least in Rio Bravo).  One of the more interesting variations is the spaghetti western, particularly in the hands of Sergio Leone.  In the opening scenes of The Quick and the Dead, the vibe is pure Leone: dramatic use of widescreen compositions, a character suddenly bursting into the frame, Sharon Stone wearing a duster, the distinctly Morricone-esque music, and a prelude that is more than a little reminiscent of the ending to The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.  Stone rides into town and the coffin-maker sizes her up, straight out of A Fistful of Dollars (and, by proxy, Yojimbo).  Her vengeful motivations are revealed in snippets of flashback, a la Once Upon a Time in the West.
The early bits of Leone-isms got my blood racing a bit, and I figured I might be in a fun bit of homage.  Eventually, however, Raimi seems to back off and do things more in his own style.  Swooping camera moves, some creative bits of violence and lovingly fetishistic shots of weaponry.  With cinematography by Dante Spinotti (pro tip: if you’re going to pay tribute to the spaghetti western, hire an Italian), the film’s look is quite flashy and consistently appealing to the eye, though perhaps a wee bit heavy on the sepia tones.  The set design feels a little uninspired, your standard dusty Western town with the usual trappings (but… what’s up with Stone’s anachronistic sunglasses?).
When the movie falters is in its essential content.  The quickdraw gunfight is a classic Western trope, to use one or two is not cliché but working with the conventions of the genre.  But they’re typically the climax of the film, when all the chips are down and it’s time for fate to play his final hand.  Here, the film is gunfight after gunfight after gunfight.  Despite some minor efforts to make each one feel a little different, they quickly become repetitive and tiresome.  Not to mention predictable.  You can guess the outcome of each gunfight by the amount of screentime each participant has.  Who’s going to win?  Check which actor is billed higher.  There’s no sense of stakes, and the legwork to build emotional investment hasn’t been done.  Late in the game there are one or two minor surprises, but they’re far from earth-shattering and fairly predictable if you’re paying attention.  For those who crave a strong plot, there isn’t much of one.  For those who crave a compelling thematic underbelly, there isn’t much of that either.  Raimi makes some half-hearted attempts at providing a feminist viewpoint.  Stone announces herself with a definitive declaration that she is not to be counted among the town’s prostitutes, she’s established as an extremely competent gunslinger and she stands up in support of a young girl molested by one of the more despicable denizens.  I appreciate the good intentions, but there’s not much meat on those bones.  The entertainment value is there, at least in sporadic bursts… the substance isn’t.
Let’s run down the cast.  DiCaprio has some nice youthful energy (the film comes soon after his breakthrough performance in What’s Eating Gilbert Grape?), but doesn’t really imbue the character with the depth required to care about his fate.  The father-son dynamic with Hackman isn’t nearly as developed or weighty as it deserves.  Crowe, well… I’ve never cared much for him.  He does his usual stoic, simmering thing and I just don’t find him very interesting to watch.  Hackman attacks his role with his customary gusto, and besides a few of the secondary characters, seems to be the only one really having fun with it.  The part is highly reminiscent of his work in Unforgiven, but without as many layers of darkness.  But he’s quite enjoyable to behold, ripping into his lines with a lively sneer.  As for Stone, she’s trying to pull off the Eastwood silent badass routine but doesn’t quite have the stuff to make it work.  And when she has the occasional emotional moment, it’s more laughable than anything else.  I feel compelled to note that in the “Best Actresses of All Time Relay Race” currently making the rounds through various movie blogs, her name has not been uttered once.  She’s a capable actress, but rarely if ever more than that.
Ultimately, the film survives on the strength of its striking visual sensibilities, some instances of clever dialogue, inventive violence and Hackman’s brassy performance.  But Raimi doesn’t have any kind of fresh spin on the Western, and the script stumbles over itself with the repetitive gunfights.  If these characters were meant to be larger than life, they still need some actual life.  Although mildly enjoyable, there are far better modern takes on the genre, including the Coen remake of True Grit, Reichardt’s haunting Meek’s Cutoff (with much more compelling feminist aspects), Sayles’ introspective genre-bender Lone Star and especially the aforementioned Unforgiven.  Rating:Fair
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8 Responses to SYTYCR Round 1.6: dogbitesman VS. The Honorary Swede (THE QUICK AND THE DEAD)

  1. Joel Burman says:

    This is becoming a classic lamb feature without a doubt… insults? hahah

  2. I don’t think either of these reviews are particularly well-written, but it appears The Honorary Swede is winning based on his injection of some genre knowledge, and that’s cool, I guess. I voted for Dogbitesman because he seemed to get the fact that since TQATD was directed by Sam Raimi, it’s supposed to be funny. Rewatched this recently and found it a humorous take on the western genre with some fun modern bits thrown in.

    Plus, well, I’m just not sure I can vote for someone who is unimpressed by Russell Crowe…sorry. 😉

  3. Murtaza Ali says:

    I like both the reviews but unfortunately I happen to detest the movie – undoubtedly the worst western I have ever seen. Most of the characters were rip offs from classic Western movies as the reviews above have so beautifully mentioned. I bet anyone who watches The Quick and the Dead first would never want to watch another Western in his life 🙂

  4. Dan says:

    I think both reviews are interesting in different ways. dogbitesman has a nice flow to the writing, but I would have liked to hear more analysis of the movie. I don’t agree with The Honorary Swede’s take and am not sure it’s a convincing argument, but I’m voting that way. This was a very close one for me.

  5. SJHoneywell says:

    I voted for dog. The reason is that dog talks about what the movie is. Swede talks about other movies it’s similar to. I’m more interested in the former.

  6. I liked THS’ review slightly better (even if I vehemently disagree with his assessment). Nicely done by both though!

  7. Bubbawheat says:

    I liked dogbitesman’s personal touches, though I felt the bit about forgetting someone has Bell’s Palsy was so absurd it felt like that entire paragraph was just a weak joke. Honestly, this battle seems to come down to underanalysis vs. overanalysis to me. I’m giving the slight edge to the overanalysis of the Honorary Swede, who by the way I think would be an interesting twist if they are an actual Swedish blogger trying to throw off the scent.

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